
Though,' and now he smiled, `there is something strange about you, Frodo, an elvish air, maybe. That Faramir would have taken the Ring to Denethor as a mighty gift would somehow raise his fathers estimation of his lesser son was a pointless exercise, for Faramir did not desire it, especially in such a fashion. The journey to Osgiliath was difficult to fathom, there was no need to do this. And why should I not compare Faramir from Tolkiens mind to the reharshed sicophantic son of Denethor he was portrayed as. The very fact Frodo has to plead with Faramir to let him go on to Mordor undermines everything about Faramir's integrity as originally intended. Irrespective of the EE, Faramir is far from the noble, insightful, credible opposite of Boromir he was in reality. I find it absolutely incredible that anyone can defend the 'adaption' of Faramir's character thaqt we were treated to in this movie. It can't really change the story or it's bogus & threatens the intergrity of what was the finished product released to the public. That's just the 'cherry on top' of the sundae. The story is the movie released to the theatres, not the one with additional scenes. However, my original statement stands as a fact. Some day when you youngsters have kids, you'll see what I mean.Īctually, I wasted my time on discussing who Sifo-Dyas was in Attack OF THE Clones, & whether Palpatine is a clone of Darth Sideous. My bad for life keeping me from having enough time to come here 3 hours every day to know PJ was doing that. Personally I did not buy the Theatrical Version, and waited for the EE instead. The plans for releasing an EE set were widely publicised well before the theatrical version DVD went on sale. I think PJ took a 180 degree turn with Faramir at the end of the movie & we will see the noble Faramir we all knew & loved from the book emerge in ROTK. Well, Osgiliath should have been half in ruins BEFORE the attack, no? Faramir in the book, even in haste, was not hasty, to crack a bad joke.ĭoes Faramir in the books not explicitly state: He doesn't even show the defect Denethor points out, to want to appear grand and noble in all situations (well, extremely briefly and sketchily then) He looks, well, hasty.

One thing Faramir does not do in the movies, is take a whole afternoon to question them, and ponder the matter at length. Of course a normal captain would have killed them or sent them to the King.


He also tells Sam, at one point, that if he had been so hasty as Sam is, he would have had them executed already. Remember, in the book, Faramir takes three chapters to sort out the question, 83 pages in my edition. If the point disappears, I think the point-making character should do the same. Obviously, his chief purpose in Tolkien's story is to make a point. However, Tolkien's point is presicely that Faramir is not the average captain. Well, the average captain sends them back to Denethor.
